Dark Journalist X-198: Breakaway X-Tech UFO Golden Dome by Dark Journalist

Copious Notes and References from this excellent broadcast

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NOTES on  Daniel Liszt — X-198

SDI 2 

Trump announces the Golden Dome over US.

Joe Anides was at the heart of many deep state shenanigans. Joe Anides was a CIA official, didn’t find out until 2005. CIA said you can’t have the Joe Anides file.

The CIA denies an Executive Order. 

The Joe Anides file is important because he mastered the psychological operation of Oswald. He worked with Bobby Inman on the UFO side and is a major player. 


They were supposed to have a UFO hearing but because Luis Elizondo said he was sick because Mellon told him to say that, the meeting was cancelled and they did the half-hazard JFK committee hearing. They had Abraham Bolden, first black CIA officer assigned to presidential security detail set to testify, but they set him up with a phony charge of accepting a bribe. He just got pardoned last year. His story is an echo of Dealey Plaza. He said there were a lot of international authorities involved around the JFK assassination and the Secret Service. He tried to testify remotely and they had him there without any audio so it didn’t go well. Dan Hardway said at first they had unlimited unredacted access to the files until they brought George Joe Anides file in. Then they began tightening the process. Joe Anides had masterminded the Oswald psychological operation and he was coming to the meetings and was in charge of dealing with the people trying to get to the truth. Judge Tonheim recently said the CIA would not provide the files on Joe Anides. They refused to honor the Executive Order that says one has to provide all the records. 


There was a cancelled UAP SCIF briefing because Grusch could not make it. So it might be that Elizondo and Mellon have infiltrated these committees and might realize they can’t dominate them normally so they create scheduling difficulties to slow the process down. Representative Burleson and Representative Luna are completely loyal to Elizondo and Mellon who have taken control of all the whistleblowers and are controlling the dates by cancelling the meetings. When the meeting gets cancelled it has to be rescheduled months later, so the hoaxes that are being reported can keep being reported instead of the real truth. So there is a major CIA effort to bring forward a kind of false version of UFO disclosure.


These committees could be important if they weren’t being so manipulated and I am going to combine that with what is going on in the background with this GOLDEN DOME UFO defense grid. Ever heard of Space Pearl Harbor? This program has been ongoing for the past three decades, and how it plays into the tug of war between Trump forces and this hardcore intel force who want to do things their own way. 


Are JFK, Ronald Reagan, and DJ Trump agendas an attempt to bring high technology out of the National Security Dungeon? Kennedy had blue enigma. This is the thing deep, deep in the government. Regan’s efforts were important but Trump was in the middle of that in 1985. We get this through a liberal reported named Ron Rosenbaum who used to write for Slate magazine. Rosenbaum is not a fan of Trump but Trump was a part of the Doomsday Network discussions going into the White House and talking to the COG Committee and how Trump thought we could get around the whole nuclear issue and in the middle of it all was John Trump. And then John Trump passed away in 1985. So it is an unusual timeline that just as we have Trump musing later about his MIT uncle, we all know that Uncle John opened up the Tesla files and came out of the UFO file through Vannevar Bush. In the article Trump, as a real estate developer, is musing to this guy about Uncle John. The article has many secrets and we are going to kick off into that.


This Declassification Committee is in disarray. They have had two JFK meetings which have gone off the rails. At least the first one had Oliver Stone but he had problems hearing and there were audio issues. The Declassification Committee is headed up by the Florida Representative Anna Paulina Luna and her job is to take the declassification efforts of the files and go through these various subjects, the JFK, MLK, and Robert Kennedy’s assassinations and the UFO file. That is what she is charged with and that committee technically runs until the end of September and that’s it. Maybe she could extend it because of all the cancellations. She is coming from the place of I don’t believe the original story and let’s get the real stuff on the record. The problem is the committee can’t get the Joe Anides file, which is the crux of the entire JFK release. Joe Anides is not only at the heart of the aerospace problem but he is at the heart of designing the assassination and the cover up ever after. So if you can’t get his files, then there is no point in the CIA turning over anything. There isn’t an awareness in that media hype and they are leaving the Joe Anides thing off. 


So I am bringing attention to that hardcore because that is going to open up a great deal if you can open up what is going on with Joe Anides designing Oswald for this and then designing the cover up ever after, and getting the Career Intelligence Medal from Bobby Ray Inman who openly talks as assistant CIA director about UFOs, who’s flying them. And not only do we know what they are, but we know who’s flying them, who it is that is inside. That’s a pretty big statement. He made that statement to Timothy Good. That is the kind of stuff that they should be bringing forward in these hearings, and you can use the same people in the JFK hearings as you do in the UFO hearings. [25:00] 


Instead the committee is putting on these blasé committee hearings, not well researched or well set up and don’t leave a lasting impact. If you don’t get something hardcore going on in those committees, it’s going to be a waste of time and then they will just expire; the mandate will expire. In the meantime you’ve got Christopher Mellon, Luis Elizondo  and David Grusch taking over the direction of those committees. As a matter Representative Burleson has hired Grusch as his UAP advisor. The whole thing gets really off the rails for me so they know something that they are not sharing with the public, but they are getting conned because the people they are talking to are counterintel spooks. 


Anyway it is all there in the D-class committee which YouTube took down for four days and now it’s back on. I watched the whole thing. We but together an entire presentation for the committee and sent that off to them and put together a big dossier binder for the whole thing. 


So you know, Luna, that whole thing is going to end up going off the rails and becoming a tool of the CIA which it’s purporting to investigate. So we have got a lot of problems with that committee. Something is very very wrong with those committee hearings.


First order of business, the CIA has to turn over the Joe Anides file. Second order of business, clear out all of the counterintel agents from the UFO committee hearings. Then you can have a real process going and you won’t have these weird people pretending to be sick and slowing down the committees and doing all that weirdness. That is a psychological technique. If I can destroy your enthusiasm or your timing and all these other things, then I  can really bring down the expectation of what you might get. 


Comment from Chat: “The committee seems like a dog and pony show, just optics. No real impetus for disclosure of anything meaningful. Luna is all right. She doesn’t know what she doesn’t know, though.”


Daniel agrees but thinks Luna and Burleson are not necessarily corrupt, but are listening to the wrong people and even they have realized it on occasion, but here they have done it again with allowing Mellon in. Mellon is the ring leader of the entire whistleblower situation. I’ve put this on record on a number of occasions. So the first person you get off the stage in relation to the whole thing is him but he represents such a money power block being a DOD billionaire from the world’s largest banking family save Rockefeller. So it is too much influence and the only way you can do it is by exposing the influence and starting it from that perspective. 


I am going to come back to a couple of things that did come out in relation to this and might turn that entire Congressional thing on its head before the summer is over, and I will explain how that goes. But right now I am going to go to the Golden Dome and I am going to start it in 1985 with Ron Rosenbaum, this liberal journalist who thinks that there’s this real estate developer, why even pay attention to him, that rich guy, Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous? Oddly enough we find a couple of interesting gems in talking to him that i think are very worthwhile when seeing how Trump is doing the Golden Dome, Star Wars, SDI 2 UFO defense grid. And this is getting underway and Lockheed is the number one folks that are involved. Of course SpaceX is going to be in there along with Anduril. And Anduril is another one we need to talk about. There are a lot of shenanigans there and a lot of the shenanigans that are in relation to all the drone activity of December really go right to the doorstep of companies like Anduril.  


Let’s go back in time. Trump’s Nuclear Experience—Ron Rosenbaum interview: In 1987 Trump set out to solve the world’s biggest problem. The conversation takes place in 1985 but 1987 I guess is when he wants to peg that and there is a picture of Trump and his first wife, Ivana, and this guy was really in the mood to take him down, and they were going to met at the 21 in New York, and he was going to do this kind of hit piece article on him and he was thinking I’ll talk to this guy’s inflated ego, and boy when I’m done the readers are going to love this. “It has largely been forgotten,” this is Rosenbaum’s article, “that Trump is not new to nuclear matters.” Now he is writing here, this is a recent article but he goes back and I’m going to quote from the original ’80s article. “He has been thinking about it and how he would handle nuclear weapons and nuclear proliferation for more than a quarter of a century, at least since 1985 when he claimed to me that he was dealing at a very high level with people in the White House, Reagan’s White House, on the question Doomsday.” Now the Doomsday Network is the COG network, and they did pull in some of the people who were not in the government. They have done that from the very beginning. The president of CBS news famously was part of Eisenhower’s COG group, and even Rumsfeld and Cheney, when they were in COG, were in different positions, like Rumsfeld was out of government when he was doing it. He was actually the CEO of Searle and they were doing Aspartame. So Rumsfeld being called in was unusual to have that kind of a role. But they do bring in these private sector people and Trump was one of them. So Trump already in ’85 was being exposed to that COG thing. Again, another reason for this establishment set to dislike him on such a heavy heavy duty level when he gets into the presidency is because here is a guy who is familiar through his uncle with the UFO file, familiar with the Deep State through Roy Cohn, and now he’s part of the COG planning back here with Reagan. Rosenbaum goes on… “It seemed like a joke when I first heard it back then, but at the very peak of the Cold War, when the US and the Soviet Union had an estimated 25,000 nukes targeted at each other, thousands of them on a hair trigger alert, Donald Trump announced that he had the know-how to solve the world’s nuclear problems. Trump to the rescue. At the time few took him seriously. I’m not sure that I took him seriously. When I sat down to lunch with him to ask him about nuclear ideas. I was trying to strike a balance between two conflicting internal reactions. Snark at Trump’s demeanor. There was an extended odd riff about Muammar Gaddafi’s pilot, for example. A key source according to Trump, there was an implication that we needed to bomb the French to stop them from supplying the Libyans.” There is a little distraction section here where basically we find out that Trump has his own intel network that is tracking Gaddafi.  


Here is something that stood out for me. He’s sitting here in 1985 across the table with Trump discussing things, and Rosenbaum is writing in his article from then. “I won’t be able to make a sarcastic remark about nuclear war being bad for real estate values, about the danger of landlords acquiring neutron bombs as a way of dealing with stubborn tenants. Actually it was more than Trump’s sincerity that convinced me to abandon such unworthy material. Something else convinced me. As soon as I heard of Trump’s initial enthusiasm for talking about the subject of denuclearization. I went out and got a copy of The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Special Issue, and was reviewing the sorry state of nuclear nonproliferation,” which we know spilled over into North Korea and all these other places that now have the bomb. So he goes into this whole thing about all these different officials who are not trying to tame nuclear weapons. And he is talking about Weinberger and people of that era, the Reagan-Bush era, the real hardcore neocons that were inside. So he starts to see that Trump is being sensible about this, and so this weird liberal journalist is like, you know, I’m going to talk to this guy and go even deeper. He goes on with this article and this is key. Perhaps someday history will look back with similar regret at the Trump Plan for halting nuclear weapons spread. [35:04] Another lost opportunity, or if Trump gets his way with this the way he does with other deals, it’s not inconceivable that history will look back at the Trump Plan acceptance as one of the few hopeful developments in the course of a miserable century. Trump said to me, quote, “My uncle, who just passed away was a great scientist,” he is telling me as we make our way out of his office into the elevator. “He was a professor at MIT, Dr. John Trump. In fact, together with Dr. Van de Graaff, they did the Van de Graaff generator. He was an early pioneer, my uncle, in a radiation therapy for cancer. He spent his whole life fighting cancer.” It was his uncle, Trump tells me, who got him started thinking about the nuclear subject. Quote, “He told me something a few years ago,” Trump recalls. “He told me you don’t realize how simple nuclear technology is becoming. That’s scary.”  He said, “It used to be that only a few brains in the world understood, and now you have a situation where thousands and thousands can easily understand it, and it is becoming easier. Someday it will be like making a bomb in the basement of your house.” And that is a very frightening statement coming from a man who is totally versed in it. So on this goes with this huge nuclear concern and doomsday COG meetings that this guy recounts that Trump is having in 1985. 


We are going to fast forward 40 years to 2025 with Trump as the sitting president and see how the concern of Uncle John and the strange COG piece stayed with Trump and how the Golden Dome is coming out of this entire process, but how it actually goes all the way back to President Eisenhower oddly enough. Instead of thinking of it as a kind of war hawk stance, this is somebody who has studied the subject here and looking at it, and there is some hidden factor involved with why they want to get this thing going. Trump says the US will put weapons in space as part of the Golden Dome Plan. Do you know how many treaties there are against that? This is a problem. It is a real problem that is going to brew. The Russians don’t like it. The Chinese don’t like it. And, frankly, a lot of Americans don’t like it. So there is something big going on here for him to take this dramatic risk of the Golden Dome and Star Wars 2. I’m going to get into exactly what that is as we get into this episode tonight, X Series 198. This is Breakaway Xtech and UFO Golden Dome.


The Breakaway Xtech comes right into the heart of this and it is very important for us to get a handle on it, especially with the bastardization of a lot of my work and other people’s work by the Pop Click environment. So I’m going to give you what the real deal is in relation to this.   


So when we talk about things like Xtech, Breakaway, and all the other pieces of it, I’m going to give you the solid background of what those things are and what they mean. Even the Deep State is becoming a very bastardized term where you have this whole Pop Click Podcast thing downgrading and diluting the power and the impact of these ideas. What you are going to need is the potency of the core ideas in order to get a real picture of what’s coming up here in the future. That wide angle lens that we need is not going to be accomplished by all of these podcasters having pressure on them to do two shows a day, and to spit out things like UFO disclosure or COG or something like that with no knowledge of the topic. [39:02] It is kind of like TV programming. They are just trying to figure out how to get people sucked in. That is one kind of a thing you can do. That’s kind of an entertainment milieu and there is a whole talent to doing that. But, when it comes to this kind of information it is extremely problematic because people get a bastardized version of the whole thing and it doesn’t have any of the heft of the topic. So by the time an emergency situation hits, they have all been kind of “it’s the boy who cried wolf” type thing because the entire subject has been cheapened. Although I would say it’s on excess right now which is why I am pointing it out. 


I would say 2025 could go either way. [40:04] I think these things could break to a whole new level or you will see a tsunami of junk culture. We are right on the precipice of it and if you are not going in for the good stuff, if you’re getting the junk and then they are going to double down. I know a lot about this industry. If you knew the amount of money and the people who are pouring the money in, the Peter Thiel types, you would not be very happy because the idea of having a media… we already had a version of the corrupted media controlled by all these interests and lobbyists and all the rest of it. That is how you got the terrible corporate media that ruled the roost for hundreds of years. And, just when you get to throw all that off those people are like, “Hey we are going to take our money and retrench into this other thing.” And they go in over there and they pretend that it is grassroots, and they pour their money in there and now you have that. So you have paid corporate media and paid independent media. You are going to need a third lane in all of this with potency. 


Comments from Chat: “Does anyone else get Blue Beam vibes from the Golden Dome?” Just me… and “Might the Gold Dome be a defense system against the planet Nibiru or another planet?” and “I think  the Golden Dome is already in operation. The powers that be are using it as a way to try and catch the public up to their actual level of advanced technology.” X and Giza Deathstar community says, “I think the space weapons are already up there.”


Very interesting. I am going to quote from Joseph Farrell’s book tonight and there is a fantastic section in there about this kind of UFO defense thing. So Trump says he’ll put weapons in space as part of the Golden Dome thing. What you have to understand about Trump is he gets into government and he wants to know “How can I get control of things that should be under Executive Control?” It is the same thing that Kennedy talked about. And Kennedy with Eisenhower, it has been revealed that a lot of their conversation was about Eisenhower telling him that a number of things were slipping from presidential control. There is indication that he was telling him this in relation to the UFO file. When Kennedy gets in there he realizes I have to take that presidency back, which is why there is a three-year struggle there and it is so well summarized in Kennedy bringing forward this whole thing. The clash when you come up to the Trump era is much more public in a sense, and what was going on with Kennedy was behind the scenes, but he had a way of raising the drama around things like when he gave a speech at an American University and he gave the CIA and the State Department a false version of his speech and then comes forward to give his actual speech which was anathema to them. It was all about having a real peace program and how we may not like the people in Russia because of what their system was at that time, the Cold War and all the rest of it, but that we all breathe the same air. That kind of thing of humanizing the people on the other side was exactly what the people in the Deep State did not want to see. And so Kennedy was a real expert in this. The craftsmanship that he showed as a statesman and they way he did things. There is that famous moment where Gorbachev who had his own incredible disclosures to give to us but he comes forward and gives a speech at the Texas School Book Depository which is remarkable because it is the site of the assassination. When you are in the business of politics, you know what symbolism is all about. And he stands up there and one of the things that he says is we are still catching up with Kennedy’s vision for the future. I think he meant it because Kennedy had this understanding of the world and I think much of it came not only with growing up in a wealthy family with all the connections that his father had but also when they went over to England when his dad became the ambassador to the UK, it opened him up to a world of understanding and also going through World War II. It opened him up to how those forces interact [45:06] on those very very high levels so by the time he goes through Congress and the Senate to the presidency he understands how the power system works. Because of his experience on the intel side that when he gets into the presidency he still says to his private aids he cannot believe the amount of power that the CIA has assumed over the executive branch, and that they are off doing operations and maybe the president is getting a report, maybe not. So he said we have to find a totally different way of doing this. And one of the things that came out in the JFK records which I think is crucial is the memo to Arthur Schlesinger where he is saying how can we have a different version of the CIA? And they present him with three different models of how to do it, including folding the CIA into the State Department, but all of it had to do with ending the Central Intelligence Agency.  


So that is a very important background because very often people say, “Yeah, well, you know, Kennedy had problems with the CIA, but all governments have stress and all the rest of it. Look, he was trying to get rid of it. You have to understand why, one, and you have to understand what they did in retaliation to those moves because Kennedy realized as the executive, the executive created the Central Intelligence Agency. They serve at the pleasure of the president and the executive can dissolve the agency. So this is the thing that is left out as we go along here when there are problems, even when in the George W. Bush administration, that’s the second Bush… when you think about it the amount of things that took place in Abu Ghraib, all the torture and protocols that were broken and GITMO and even there and even with those groups and that period of time and the things that were going on in relation to Congressional Oversight, they still could not get that group into line. That group ended up doing all these other things, including bugging the Senate just a few years later in Obama’s term. So a lot of those same people who are involved in those shenanigans on a very deep level, now we find them over and over again in the UFO disclosure movement. So you have to call out the intel people. It does not have anything to do with acrimony back and forth. It is about the infiltration of a field by a group that has a track record of illegal doings around the world and by executive action too. In my opinion the same group was involved in the executive action attempt on Trump back in August with Thomas Matthew Crooks. And was that even him on the roof? How could he even get there and all the rest. These things are active and you have to track the connections immediately or else they do infiltrate through. So when  you get counter intelligence people showing up in a swarm around a topic area and the media promoting them and all this money folding into this space and strange inconsistencies, the backgrounds of these people and the open lying in public, you have to go in for the kind of investigative journalism that is hard-hitting or else you are not going to get anywhere. We’ve seen where the softball stuff has taken this process, but it gets dangerous when you look into things like the Covid Operation or when you look into things like the drone swarm. If you get into a national crisis and that situation has been building up in the background, if they get the ability to set up a UFO defense office on this level from the intel side, then  you are looking at a very big problem. 


Now, in my opinion, the  Golden Dome effort on the Trump side, which I am going to get into next here on a deeper level is an attempt to do it all from the executive side, which is something that Reagan wanted to do. There was tension there against Reagan over this. What is also interesting is the various whistleblowers that came out, and I’m going to introduce some of them to you tonight that you may not have heard of. Scientists who said, “Wait a minute. Where did that 40 billion go that we were working with on this program?  It’s gone.” Suddenly found themselves demoted and lost to history. [50:08] Well, we’re going to find them again here tonight as we get deep, deep into tonight’s episode. The X series 198. This is Breakaway Xtech, UFO Golden Dome, Space Defense Grid, and Space Pearl Harbor. There is a program for Space Pearl Harbor. We are going to get into that next. But first we just did the Pyramid X documentary about the incredible discoveries at Giza and the very interesting radar that is being used to see beneath the Giza Plateau, and there is a lot in there relating to the Hall of Records piece, so when they are talking about the space radar, keep thinking about the Hall of Records piece that Cayce put on the record. That is what Cayce said was under the paw of the Sphinx and he said it was another pyramid, Pyramid X underneath the Sphinx. This discovery shows that incredible third eye of Cayce doing a panoramic vision of what was going on there in the retro-cognitive piece that he was bringing forward about Atlantis placing these records there. Now the science part is bringing it forward. The space radar piece, the synthetic radar that they were using goes around all those officials like Zahi Hawass and the people who controlled the plateau for many years and prevented good researchers or delayed them from their research while National Geographic was feeding them millions of dollars, an incredible corrupt system. In my Pyramid X documentary I do a whole section on Zahi Hawass and call it Gizagate about his corruption and the various strange things that took place there with Hawass and Lehner, and they both come directly out of the Cayce Foundation that funded them, but as soon as they got to Egypt they bashed Cayce and took all the credit for themselves for the work they were doing, even though the Cayce Foundation continued to fund them. So I put out this April 25th documentary with a whole section on Gizagate and Zahi Hawass and a week-and-a-half later he shows up on the Joe Rogan show. Isn’t that extraordinary timing? [55:38]


Comments from Chat: According to Tesla his goal was for all the major nations to have the teleport defense system to make war obsolete. Reagan said he wanted to share it. Do you think Trump wants to do the same?


DJ thinks Trump is a little more shrewd about sharing it. Reagan’s idea was impractical about saying hey, you can have the shield too. What Kennedy did is he said we can have a joint moon mission with the Russians. This is behind the scenes. Then I found a UN speech that Kennedy gave in late September of 1963 before his assassination, and at the very tail end of his speech about space, he goes into the joint moon mission. So it is on the record with the Kennedy Library, Sergei Khrushchev, and on the Dark Journalist show it is on record at the UN. He said we should not duplicate our efforts, and this is a greater move towards peace. We can make a joint moon mission. That kind of gets rid of so much of the Cold War. When I was looking into details about the reaction to that at the time one of the main honchos who was pulling the strings at NASA at that time, and people in Congress said, “If it becomes a joint moon mission, we are pulling all the funding from NASA.” So there were weird indications there even before you get to the UFO file and the UFO file is going to be the ultimate thing, but the cover there, the wall where they are saying we are not going to share our space program with the Russians. No way. And Kennedy is adamant that he needs collaboration efforts on behalf of the superpowers to avoid a nuclear confrontation, which he becomes aware. If you go into the dialogue of his original meeting with Khrushchev, when he comes out he is talking to an aid and he says as I was talking to the Premier there I said, you know, in 10 minutes a nuclear exchange could kill 70 million people. And he said, so? He said this is the kind of people that we are dealing with. It is also interesting to note that people who were there at the Summit said that Khrushchev was berating him and swearing at him, which is a big no no in diplomatic circles. Kennedy did this very interesting thing; he was very Zen about it. He did not respond. He did not take the bait. He did not walk out. He didn’t do any of those things and he sort of stuck to his guns and I think over time Khrushchev came to respect him. Kennedy understood just how dangerous the period he was in, and I think if we had had any other president during the Cuban missile crisis there would have been a nuclear exchange of some kind. So Kennedy saved that period of history regardless of the Deep State efforts to remove him. He extends this incredible legacy. But he was all about sharing the technology and sharing the UFO file. There is a very important section in my research about Lloyd Berkner, the physicist who was part of the Robertson UFO panel and that is who Kennedy and that is who Kennedy was going to meet at the Trademark. There is a whole scene there about Berkner that I’ll get into later tonight. Of course I did a whole documentary on it, JFK, The Final Speech. [1:00:00] As I do research around Berkner I’m going to find that his number two man was assassinated. He died of a heart attack three weeks after Kennedy’s assassination. So Berkner being in this window and saying  after the speech that he’s going to make with Kennedy at the Trademark which involved this flag being flown in from White House Air Force One, something extraordinary taking place, including the fact that a memento of JFK’s from World War II was going to be exchanged. [1:00:42] So what he writes to his students is he says I can’t go too far into it but what I will say is it was going to have international implications. Something major was going on in relation to that speech and given the background of Antarctica and the UFO file with Berkner and then the fact that his number two man dies suddenly at the ripe old age of 54 three weeks after the assassination I think it just extraordinary timing. 


Tesla’s vision of the future is mentioned of how wars would be fought from space using beam weapons. [pic] It is no question that Trump getting access to Tesla’s vision really sets this thing in motion. We start to get the vision to understand Star Wars and particle beam weapons so much better. After all, what was John Trump working on? Particle colliders, the early versions of CERN that his work with Van de Graaff was all about that. So it is an extraordinary background and the story only picks up as we go along here tonight. 


Comments from Chat: Just like Star Wars under Reagan was covered to deliver other tech to space, what do you speculate the Golden Dome could be a cover for? A response… A space-based global prison is what the Golden Dome might become. Golden Dome might be a synonym for Spacenet from Terminator. In Ingo Swan’s book “Starfire,” he talks about weapons in space that can affect the population’s awareness with microwave radiation. They for sure got that tech up there. I bet Starlink is equipped too. 


I think what is interesting is the idea of control on the ground from space comes directly out of the Nazi rocket program. Both we and the Russians inherited it. I think what is going on with Trump is very interesting. I think he sees it as inevitable that there is going to be control from space, just as Kennedy and Reagan saw it also. I think that those three pivotal figures are part of a connecting chain of trying to find a reasonable alternative to this kind of Pearl Harbor in space which militarizes the whole thing. What is going on on the inside with the Bush neocon types is they have had a program in place for decades which is Space Pearl Harbor, that something will happen in relation to that that will militarize space. I did a show a couple weeks ago with Alex Jones and I went into Space Pearl Harbor a little bit and I was telling him that I had 200 examples, but don’t worry I am only going to show 10. I have got some of the key ones here tonight and I am going to go through them with you and I think this will answer the question a little better.   


First of all let’s understand the space that we are in. The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 requires states party to the treaty, including the United States and Russia, not to place in orbit around the Earth any objects carrying nuclear weapons or any other kind of weapons of mass destruction, install such weapons on celestial bodies, or station such weapons in outer space in any other manner. So this clause forbids the US from prepositioning in Earth orbit any devices powered by nuclear weapons and any devices capable of mass destruction. A space station nuclear pump x-ray laser would have violated this treaty, and that is what SDI was. SDI is so important it has to be understood that it has been a conceptual piece now since the 1950s. [1:05:11] I am going to show you the various articles in relation to that. We are going to get to SDI in depth through the lens of Space Pearl Harbor. Watch the tracking here in dates. I’m going to cite major science journals, newspaper articles, position papers, major figures, and all the rest going directly into this theme of a Space Pearl Harbor. Remember before 9/11 there was a group called PNAC and this was the Project for the New American Century, and they had said we are going to need a Pearl Harbor type event to take place in order to move us into this and a glory period, and in fact they got 9/11 two years later. This was the Space Pearl Harbor piece. And by the way, when Rumsfeld was working on this as part of the Space Council, guess which president he was working for? It wasn’t W. Bush. It was Clinton. So the multiple party action on this is interesting. 


Okay 2019. This is from an army media release. Pentagon’s Answer to “Space Pearl Harbor” Threat Shifts  Focus. Space Pearl Harbor. Remember Rumsfeld’s warning of a “space Pearl Harbor” Too few of the US defense secretaries admirers and detractors pay sufficient need to his insight for the militarization of space—New York Times. Space Pearl Harbor. Try this on. Deep, deep in the planning of government position papers were released inside that became declassified in 2020. But this is from April 17th, 2006. Lieutenant Colonel Alan Burke, Air War College, Maxwell Air Force Base. Space Threat Warning: Foundation for Space Superiority, Avoiding a Space Pearl Harbor. Internal documents. There it is again, Space Pearl Harbor. I will give you a couple more instances. 1999 Rumsfeld is doing this Space Council Review in depth with all these other military people and scientists and others. At the time Rumsfeld is a private citizen before he becomes the oldest defense secretary in history. Remember originally under Ford, he was the youngest, so he had a peculiar distinction of being the youngest and the oldest. 


Key takeaways from his study. This incentive to strike first—a “Pearl Harbor” in space—could be so destabilizing as to precipitate a war that neither state wants but cannot avoid. The American comparative advantage is in the astonishing growth of US commercial space over the past couple of decades. The next administration will need to develop a vision for American preeminence in space.—Rumsfeld 1999. There is Space Pearl Harbor. A couple more examples. NATO chief in April of this year (2025), April 12th, NATO chief says Russia may deploy nuclear weapons in space. That is a weird thing to say and where he is getting that from is even more interesting. But this was floating around in March and April, this idea that the Russians were going to put a nuke in space. Somebody was getting wind of something there and it could have well been that we were going to pretend that the Russians had it up there so we had to put it up there, or it was something that was nuclear oriented about one of their satellites. Something was going on up there. Everybody has kind of backed off on that temporarily. 


Here comes the Golden Dome. March 28th, 2025. Gatestone Institute in International Policy Council. China Is Taking War to Earth’s Orbits. A “Space Pearl Harbor” Is on the Way—Gordon G. Chang. Now remember Pearl Harbor is a sneak attack by the Japanese on American military, on our Navy in Hawaii. And that is December 7th 1941. And of course it gets America into the war. And famously the leader of Japan said, “Oh my God, we have awakened the sleeping giant of America.”  They did, and in fact America and the Allies would go on to beat Japan, Germany, and the Axis powers. Nonetheless, the surprise attack was meant to give them the initiative and the beginning of the war and for sure it did. 


Space News, June 10th, 2019. Trump’s Space Force announcement could propel us to deal with space “Pearl Harbor.” Space Pearl Harbor is the term, internally and externally . If you are looking at the position papers it goes all the way back to 1999. It may go further back, but I found it from 1999 to last week. So we have 26 years of it. Space Pearl Harbor is certainly the program. [1:11:02] And you can see why so much of the development in space goes black because if you start having manned missions to the moon in 1972 and you don’t get into the details on this, you don’t explain it to the public, what is it that is going on there in relation to all of this? What is it that has taken place where you an have a program that over 52 years and now 53 years has done nothing about returning people back in a manned mission? And they talk about Artemis’ mission that’s going to include women going back to the moon and they still haven’t done that even though it was supposed to be done at the end of last year under Biden.  


And finally, Space News. Deterring a looming Space Pearl Harbor through better public discourse. There we are. I have so many different versions of this. I am going to read something that comes directly out of the Rumsfeld Commission Report. Back in 2001, the Rumsfeld Commission issued a prescient warning. Whether the US will be wise enough to act responsibly and soon enough to reduce US space vulnerability, or whether as in the past, a disabling attack against the country and its people, a Space Pearl Harbor will be the only event able to galvanize the nation and cause the US government to act. Now that such an attack could turn the free world into a hellscape under the thumb of an authoritarian regime in a few years, how well has the Pentagon assured the US public, as well as the international public, that the US will have the capability in time to deter and defend against this fateful assault? Vice Chief of Space Operations, General Thompson. 


The Rumsfeld Commission Report was a big thing in its period, especially passed around internally in 2001 before he took the oath of office and was selected to be the Defense Secretary under W. Bush. Rumsfeld Commission Warns Against “Space Pearl Harbor,” warning that the United States could face a Space Pearl Harbor, Defense Secretary designate Donald Rumsfeld in a commission he formally headed unveiled a report Thursday advocating tighter security for American spaces. So the Space Pearl Harbor, what would happen if there was an attack from space in relation to this? I tracked something that I believe internally they call the Sky Event. It is this idea of a UFO threat triggering emergency powers to launch us into the Continuity of Government phase. All of their position papers on the inside are all about preparing for this kind of attack that takes place. And it is interesting to note that before 9/11 they had position papers out there that they were trading internally that said something along the lines of let’s say Osama bin Laden flies planes into the World Trade Center. So they have an incredible prescient sense behind these things and they game them out many many times in advance. So this is the nature of what we are talking about in relation to all this. And I think one of the tough things on the public side is to be able to sift through it, especially when you are getting corporate media which is all divisive stuff. Trump is Hitler, or on the conservative side every liberal is a pink-haired, or purple or green. So these exaggerations of these things, every liberal is a Karen and all the rest. Of course some of that stuff is true. This is the milieu of the information that you are getting. [1:15:17] And a tough decision in terms of the culture and the future moving forward have a lot to do with what’s going on in relation to space and the need for something like the Golden Dome. Now here’s the thing. What would a Golden Dome do that we can’t already do? And is it a question or suggestion or just a revelation of stuff we already have? Wasn’t it one of Trump’s assistants who said we have weapons now that can defy space and time. Well we have had them for awhile but they don’t usually like to put it out there like that. I think Trump’s suggestion is we can put it out there and it helps our leverage. And I think the Xprotech secret types think to themselves, no, you have to protect the secrecy at all costs, so you are not going to talk realistically about the UFO file or the various things we have. when you think about that in the Xtech you’re looking at a totally different kind of technology that the public is not aware of. So these suggestions, these hints, just like when Trump is talking about invisibility before, which we certainly have on some levels since they have been doing it since Thomas Townsend Brown era. You know the ability to cloak things and stealth technology taken to the next level of popping out of this reality and popping into another one. Certainly there are programs that have mastered aspects of that. So we are talking about a totally revolutionary and different kind of technology in relation to all this. We have to keep that in mind as we go into looking deep as to why Trump would be approaching a Star Wars 2 SDI to President Reagan redux of the Golden Dome. Remember the key players on the inside said things like SDI was actually designed as a UFO defense grid. Let’s get into that next. 


Comments from Chat: Is the Golden Dome like the Tholian Web? The Tholian web was called Ripple Technology. Me thinks Antarctica has its dome and that scares some people even more.


Oh yes, Ripple comes up tonight. Joseph and I did a two-parter last August during the heady days of the Trump assassination attempts and it was all about Lloyd Berkner in that whole connection and then what possibly in relation to the UFO file, besides the UFO file the announcement could have been that Berkner and Kennedy were making, and Joseph went back into this Ripple Technology, which is that clean… doing the nuclear explosions and having them run clean on the fallout side, which would change the entire picture. If you could commit that kind of devastation without any fallout, that is some kind of a jump in society. I’ll tell you an interesting thing that I’ve discovered in relation to all that. Well, I’m not sure how much I should reveal, but I will say that there was a national security figure who passed away in February who I was in communication with and he had served in a national security position during the Kennedy administration and he confirmed publicly that even though he wasn’t involved directly in the UFO file that he was getting briefed on other world technologies and other world craft by Richard Bissell. So that sets up something quite fascinating because there’s a dovetail between what is going on in this whole idea about Ripple and the tests that they were doing around ground Operation Dominic and in relation to the testimony that he gave, and it was coming from two totally different places and these things just crisscrossed in the air. [1:20:30] Not only that, but they all came about in relation to something of an operation called Blue Gill, which is interesting because all the UFO related projects in that period came under that blue enigma umbrella. We put that forward in 2023 in the spring. In the spring of 2024 the government came forward and said, “Yeah, that’s right. We did all the blue stuff but you know what? It was a crash retrieval type program, but it didn’t find anything. So just forget about it, that whole cone of blue.” So in the background we rattled a lot of cages by finding out about blue enigma. So this stuff goes very deep but I’m glad Joseph mentioned Ripple there because John Knuckles who we got into that with, that incredible scientist was around both Star Wars and this period of technology piece with Berkner. So he is kind of a bookend on both. And I also went through some of the court cases that John Knuckles went through when they were giving him a really hard time on the inside. I did mention that I was going to introduce you into some of the SDI scientists who were banned for speaking out and I’m going to do that right now. So you saw there about Space Pearl Harbor and the early Star Wars efforts and we saw some interesting things in relation to the block around certain Kennedy records like the Joe Anides file and he is locked in with both Oswald and Aerospace. 


Let’s find some unusual scientists and see what they had to say and see if we can’t tie this all back to a very interesting event in 1961. 


Comments from Chat: Does it seem to you that the Golden Dome was just another money laundering slush fund for the military industrial complex? How else do they get quadrillions for Golden Dome false flag attack?


Yes that is the Space Pearl Harbor. So we’re putting together these pieces. You get the protection based on the event. So it is Problem, Reaction, Solution there of course, but what’s even more important I think when you look at it is that it’s not so much that it’s just a slush fund and you are going to get all this money going into the defense side. Of course the UFO defense office will do that for you. But something else takes place as well, which is the ability to turn projects black, and so to continue to perpetuate this kind of underground black budget economy. And I think a lot of reporting on it is out of date to the tune of about 30 years. So, when we go deep on the kind of black budget that is going on now, watch out, because you are talking about some of these moves even around the crypto space may be related directly to this. But that’s a tangent that could really pay off. [1:24:59] 


All right, Aldric Saucier. This guy has such an interesting story and he is just a lovable scientist. He played a very interesting role in Star Wars. It was rumored that his original complaints were that he thought that the money that was going into SDI was being used to build a secret space program. That is way before we even got word through McKinnon and other things about what was going on there at NASA. This guy thought they were pilfering this money that’s coming into this research and it is disappearing. Saucier started his career as a navigator in the US Army Air Corp. In 1969 he worked on Apollo 11. He also worked in ballistic missile defense ground-based free electron laser in 1983 and the Star Wars program through 1991. In October 1986, while working on the Strategic Defense Initiative Star Wars, Saucier sent a letter of complaint to James Abrahamson alleging a pattern of mismanagement and abuse as well as wasteful spending of R&D. By 1987, he was demoted and this guy’s life gets ruined. His mental health was questioned by his detractors and he was surveilled by the FBI. Democratic Congressman John Conyers believed this may have been done in retaliation and he asked Secretary Michael Stone of the Army to overturn the dismissal. Saucier was given whistleblower protection. By April 1992 his security clearance was revoked after the army found an error on a form he had filled out in 1969. They will just use anything. 


What he was suggesting dovetails very interestingly with an article by William Broad in the New York Times. William Broad had done a number of articles on SDI and some of the mysteries around it including this kind of unlimited budget that was going on and some of the testing that didn’t seem like it was related to space testing. It was more weapons testing in New Mexico and other places. 


Check this out. Military’s Secret Star Trek Is Over—William Broad New York Times, 1986. The Defense Department is dismantling a secret coast to coast space complex that cost at least 5 billion dollars and was intended to operate in collaboration with the civilian space shuttle. The department has mothballed the 3.3 billion dollar spaceport in California… 3.3 billion dollars in the ’80s. They also scrapped a sprawling control center in Colorado. Last year it disbanded a secret cadre of 32 astronauts based in Los Angeles. Talk about a secret space program, 32 astronauts no one ever heard about. That squadron was disbanded June 3rd. This secretive group, which had 134 military officers  and experts at its peak had no role in lofting a military payload on the shuttle. The Pentagon is ending its two decade shuttle collaboration with the civilian space agency because it has decided that manned spaceships are too risky for its astronauts and payloads, which include satellites intended to spy on other countries, or warn of missile attack. Instead, it has brought in its own fleet of unmanned rockets. This is getting us into the territory we need to be in. We have to also say that the shuttle disaster and the death that took place there, that’s the last manned space mission. So that is the end, the burning up in the atmosphere is the end of Kennedy’s vision of manned landings, [1:30:01] which had all transferred a decade later, a decade after 1972 to this shuttle program. So when the shuttle gets blown up or has this accidental explosion, however you want to look at it, it is connected to that original vision that President Kennedy had about putting civilians in space. This secret group that was working there that got scrapped and had billions of dollars behind it but the public didn’t know, lends itself immediately to this whole stealth space program idea going on in the background. It has to be understood that when you get the Golden Dome, the Space X and the privatization of space, when you get this push for a Mars mission, what you are actually looking at is the end run, the public manifestation of something that has been going on in the background for decades.


The next piece that we need to bring into the heart of all this is how does it relate to the UFO file? That’s where we are going next and then we will take your questions. 


President Reagan went into deep deep overtime with Mikhail Gorbachev who said if you can’t get rid of SDI I can’t do any nuclear negotiations. Somehow Reagan found a way around it. Reagan came into one of those meetings and says I have a great idea. How about a zero option, no nuclear weapons at all. 


Comment from Chat: I wonder if they used particle beams or lasers to destroy those shuttles. 


Yes, the story of that shuttle and its disaster doesn’t make sense given the amount of time. You can always have accidents, but there were unusual things about it, including the fact that that wasn’t the original launch date. The original launch date was two weeks later. It is a tragedy in American history but you have to look at it through a cynical eye because what you are seeing there is the end of this whole program that Kennedy had announced in the first place. I think when you look at it you are also looking at the potential that it was sabotaged in order for them to have the ability to say it is too dangerous for our astronauts, and we are just going to rely on these unmanned missions while secretly doing manned missions in the background. If you have manned missions that are public, then they are going to crisscross with things out there that are private. For example, a scenario, if you found ruins on the moon, you would want to send people back there to do investigations, but you did not want that to be on the public record. You just avoid the whole having to lie by putting people back on the moon, but not telling the public about it. There are indications that that took place. There are also indications that there may be something else operational, and that there has been interference with our missions and until they get to the bottom of that interference which gets us into the heart of the UFO file, they do not want it to be a public enterprise for fear that disclosure could just happen as a result of a firefight in space. So year, that gets us into territory.


Comments from Chat: What do you make of Reagan’s diary entry where he wrote that he learned from top space scientists that quote, “Our shuttle capacity is such that we could orbit 300 people.” If pure fusion bombs have zero nuclear fallout, then Project Orion, the nuclear propulsion craft capable of [putting] hundreds of people into space takes on a whole new light. General Atomics, the subsidiary of General Dynamics was involved in building the Orion System.


Yes that is a good point about General Dynamics. They are in the heart of so much of this and I am going to do Space Wars 1960 versus Space Wars 2020. It is coming up and there is a whole section on General Dynamics in there. It comes together when you think of it that way. [1:35:05] In the period they were representing this Reagan came out with this in March of 1983 so Reagan’s Star Wars comes up early and he is in there through 1988. He is talking with very difficult Soviet Premiers. He doesn’t have Gorbachev yet, and the entire world was aghast at his proposal in general. And how he is saying look what we can do is we can have a shield that operates from outer space so that the entire world is safe under this umbrella and nuclear weapons can’t destroy the world. There is a quasi religious concept to it as well, and the original logos of Star Wars have that shield. And Reagan in all of his briefings on it talked about the shield. So the Golden Dome again, Trump with the Golden Era, the Golden Age,  all the things he is using about gold. Here comes the Golden Dome. 


So we are looking at something that maybe I can come in through the back door and see if this doesn’t have a little bit of a tie in to something I’ve been trying to introduce people to, which is the full concept of the Melchizedek Device which was built in Tesla’s work and was either stolen and hidden or it was put so deep in a black project that it became completely unknowable. Let’s go with the stolen theory and it works like this and it ties us directly into Reagan’s ranch. If you have watched any of my episodes around the Melchizedek Device and Brother Sunburst, Norman Paulsen, the kind of hippie cult leader who was one of the first major kind of Whole Foods type grocers. He grew his own organic vegetables and from a 15 dollar a day house painter became a millionaire sensation in the 1970s, suddenly having over 50 million dollars at his command. When I did his history one of the things we found out about him was his close relationship with Yogananda, one, where he got the name Melchizedek which is also the nickname for the divine, and also his close relationship with George W. Van Tassel the UFO contactee, including marrying Van Tassel’s daughter and being close in with the crowd of George Adamski, the other big ’50s and ’60s contactee. Norman Paulsen also shows up around Bruce De Palma who is a major free energy advocate and physicist who is the brother of Brian De Palma. One thing I want you to note as we get along in looking at all of this, from the Golden Dome to Star Wars, and even back to the Kennedy era around some of the shenanigans in the background around NASA. Hollywood shows up over and over again. In fact even through the figure of Ronald Reagan, Hollywood shows up. There is a movie, talk about predictive programming, with Ronald Reagan where he talks about a mystery X device and how it revolutionizes how warfare takes place and it will make America safe. It is this very goofy scientific sci-fi trip set in 1942. Whenever you get around the Hollywood aspect there is something strange that is pulling in directly from the entertainment side, on the scientific side, even through the esoteric side and then is represented in the political. I am going to give you a very unusual example. When I was looking into Dorothy Kilgallen and her death, a journalist in the ’50s and ’60s very close to all the entertainment figures, she had the ear of some of world’s leaders. This is somebody who had a remarkable background, and she was close to Marilyn Monroe and the Kennedys and so she knew the juicy gossip from the inside. One of the interesting things that she covered which is not on the record [1:40:16] is Roswell, and in that period people didn’t talk about Roswell because no one knew what it was until 1979. The Roswell incident took place July 4th, 1947, but instantly they put a wet blanket on it and nobody heard anything about it until 1979 when Jesse Marcel, the original intelligence officer came forward and did his whistleblowing duty to Stanton Friedman, and all the research and documentaries and books came out about Roswell, and it was 30 years of memory that had elapsed but nonetheless the trail was still there from all that incredible activity that had taken place, which is why Roswell is much more authentic than it is sometimes portrayed but the government got rid of the story in a couple days and they did not want anyone to think about it. It took Friedman digging up Marcel who had been the original intel officer around the whole thing and his very intriguing background with it that got us that story. So you have to understand the value about some of those early stories. Kilgallen knew about this so you see the level she was plugged into. When we get around entertainment and we talk about the Marilyn Monroe story and how she died under mysterious circumstances, one of the problems with these stories is that everyone wants to go back to the Mafia, and they want to go back to this idea that everything was because of the Mafia. There are a couple of lawyers who are out there now writing these books who had never written anything about the Kennedys or Marilyn and they came out with these stories about RFK killed Marilyn, and oh no, it was the Mafia who killed the Kennedys. The Kennedys were terrible. That is a program. It is actually a very well-designed program and it tracks from about 1962. 


One of the things that you do when you are in intelligence is you have to conduct the cover up ever after. So we get into this need to understand that it gets into there. So people would think oh yeah, Marilyn was killed because of the Mafia or the Kennedys killed her. But it is fascinating to note that there is a UFO thing right in the heart of the Marilyn story and it has come up as a kind of orphan piece of knowledge or information, but there is a real CIA document about the people doing and conducting the surveillance hearing these things in relation to JFK and Marilyn and her talking about how JFK had gone to an air base to inspect things from outer space. It didn’t say aliens or UFO. It said things from outer space. But the way that she or the document talked about it, it sounded very authentic. What is interesting is the amount of people who were bugging the Kennedys and Marilyn. In that wash of people you are going to find intel agents who hear one particular thing that really sets them off. So they are looking for dirt and subversive activities on Kennedy in relation to Marilyn and in the middle of it there is the UFO thing, which is the highest national security secret of the US government. 


Comment from Chat: Did anyone pick up on this? Did they report on it but not understand the gravity?


Yes. I will tell you what is interesting is the document itself.  There are reports of the document throughout FBI files early on, and then when it finally comes out in the ’90s and there is a guy who has come forward with it and actually I have the document here, [1:45:03] but one of the interesting things about it is all the comments that were made about the document in the FBI files. There is no way that if this guy were just some hoaxer who came out with a document he would be able to know all of those FBI files because those were all classified. So whoever came forward with the document, and I know the story of the individual and their background and it has always been really a kind of rock solid piece of information. So what it basically says is that she was being listened to by people in the Hoffa camp, private eyes from the Hoffa camp who wanted to get something on Kennedy, and she was being listened to by the CIA and the FBI. So you had three different types of surveillance going on. So there is crisscross there. So the satisfying story that they can give out to the public later about this big star getting killed is either related to this Mafia thing or related to the Kennedys. There is a whole drama that takes place there and I have a couple of interesting things in relation to this that will play out and then we will jump to your questions. I started with Kilgallen and i’ll go back with this. So after the Kennedy assassination Kilgallen knows that the Warren Commission is bunk and she knows that Marilyn’s death was engineered, so she gets very suspicious and starts to leak things out in her column in relation to this, talking about how it doesn’t add up and how the Warren Commission is fiction and so she gets an interview with Jack Ruby. Nobody can figure this out. Nobody has been able to get a private interview with Jack Ruby. He has spoken one time to the press and he said some very unusual things, but she gets a private interview with him in his cell. It is true she is a prominent journalist but there are lots of them and they all want to talk to Ruby. Why does Kilgallen get to talk to Ruby. There is no good explanation that has been on the record. Now it turns out that what took place was that there was a CEO of Reprise Records. Reprise was a label that Sinatra had, and Sinatra was famous for hating the kind of interwoven control of the entertainer, and he was like these entertainers should be able to do things independently and I am going to create these Reprise Records and make sure that that is what happens and they get to retain the rights eventually to their own work. He had been screwed over by Colombia and all these other labels, but the CEO of Reprise Records leaks the name to Jack Ruby and gets it to him and says your friend, the CEO of Reprise Records, he wants me to come in and talk to you. Do you agree? And Ruby immediately said yes. When she goes in there to do this they bug her phone and try to figure out what is going on here. And they figure it out on the FBI side. I’m not sure if the intel people did but they got there first. What they realized is that some of Ruby’s last calls before he kills Oswald are to this strange individual who is running Reprise Records for Frank Sinatra. Reprise put out an album of sounds of the X-15, which was our incredible space plane that was created by Walter Dornberger and according to Colonel Corso was set up directly to chase UFOs. So this record, you know, you have this crooning group, Sammy Davis, Dean Martin and all these people and Reprise Records and in the middle of it, boom, this very strange X-15 thing. [1:50:03] As you know in my own research the X-15 comes under the heading of deep X technology. That is why it held the space plane speed record until last year even though it was from 1960. And of course it’s our friend Walter Dornberger who comes over through Paperclip and is that dyed in the wool hardcore Nazi. Dornberger was having a protégé there at Bell Aerospace when he was the CEO of Bell Helicopter and the protégé’s name was Michael Paine and Michael Paine’s wife was Ruth Paine and the Oswalds were staying with the Paines and all of the evidence that convicts Oswald in the public’s mind comes directly out of the Paine’s residence. 


The X-15 is kind of grandfathered into this whole process of the X37B which is the space plane that we have now which has no explanation and completes these orbits where it is in orbit around the Earth for 18 months and we still don’t know exactly what the X37B is all about.


If you can track with me through some of these UFO contactee people all of this might make sense to you. George Adamski of course is the head of this lofty theosophical group in the 1940s, and in the 1930s he has actually already written a book on it. And he talks about Atlantis and Secret Masters and the whole mystery school track. But in the 1940s he starts taking photographs with a telescope and he starts saying he is seeing craft and finally in California during one of his drives in the desert while he is with others he goes and has this encounter with Orthon who is the blond haired almost angelic looking ET in a regular UFO that has landed. I can tell you this about Adamski. He had a security clearance inside the Pentagon after he came out with these various stories. They took him quite seriously and there’s other high level indications he was taken very seriously.  


Now let’s bring back the concept of the Melchizedek device for a moment. The Melchizedek device is what the FBI agents send and Vannevar Bush is pulling the strings in the background. They send John Trump, Professor Trump, in to find Nikola Tesla’s papers. That Melchizedek device is something that can take down flying objects at a distance. Now apparently one or two things take place. Either the person that they send along with Trump who gets there first opens the safe and takes out the crucial information of Tesla’s and disappears to history and that person is a very interesting safe cracker from World War II, Willis George. He is listed in Trump’s roster as a civilian investigator. Trump later finds that interesting and has him checked out and finds out he is a really hardcore OSS safe cracker and had been parachuted behind enemy lines to go into Nazi headquarters and Nazi occupied France to get certain documents. This guy lived a kind of James Bond lifestyle. He is on the Trump team. He is placed there. He is not selected by Trump but he gets to the hotel before Trump gets there. So the indication is, did he have time to go in and take the information out so that Trump, when he gets there, doesn’t have it? Or, did Trump have the full thing or not enough of it, or a piece of it so that he was able in the aftermath of all this to work with those papers and create through some kind of particle acceleration weapon that Tesla was working on, the ability to pull down UFOs at a distance. 


Everyone always talks about in relation to this from the few people that know… they think that the story is that the government sent him in to find information about the death ray. But, if you listen to his own testimony, and I have hours and hours of it before he died, John Trump says what they asked me to do is to find this device, and the device could pull down flying objects at a distance. [1:55:23]  That’s the Melchizedek device. It’s a UFO killer. What you have to keep in mind is how important this could have been for them if they were ranking it as a top national security problem and secret that this ability, if there was a device that Tesla had devised to create this ability to reverse the gravity and pull this thing down, then it could have been of utmost importance.


In 1952 there is an FBI report that they are tapping the phone line of George Adamski and Adamski is talking and he is saying that he has just seen a demonstration of this device that can pull these UFOs down at a distance, and they flip out. So they send six agents over to his house to bully him, and he says he is a patriotic citizen. They tell him they are going to ship him back to Poland. You better tell us who is it that has this Melchizedek device.


I am going to read a compilation of contactees by Nick Redfern and he is kind of almost scornfully going through them, and it is not a believer’s book, but sometimes if you are cynical about it you can find interesting things. 


Comment from Chat: You think they just stumble over the truth but they doubt it?


I think they can be very detailed. They have a lot of details and sometimes in those details the truth is just hanging out there. 


Adamski, January 1953, the FBI was told that Adamski had in his possession a machine which could draw flying saucers down from the sky. That is the Melchizedek device that they sent John Trump in for Tesla’s papers to find. Adamski says I’m you guys. I could have been a G-man myself. I will tell you what, there was this crazy scientist. He was in Chicago and here’s this name, and he gives them a false trail and they go there and get more ticked off, so they try to surveil him into giving them the answer. In the crisscross of all this if you have watched my episodes on Brother Sunburst and the Melchizedek device you are going to find that Sunburst was there in that milieu as Van Tassel’s son-in-law working around Adamski.


At one point Brother Sunburst is an out-of-work house painter beach bum even though he had four years with Yogananda so he had this kind of spiritual aspect that’s Norman Paulsen, Brother Sunburst. He goes from that to being this incredible millionaire entrepreneur, organic farmer with a ranch next to President Reagan Star Wars SDI President Reagan. 


Start to think there was a device and that Tesla was in possession of it, and somehow the government or the forces that were looking for it did not get their hands on it, and it shows up later and Adamski is watching a demonstration of it and it falls into hands somewhere in that California milieu and then ends up quite probably at the ranch, right next to Reagan’s ranch at the Brother Sunburst ranch which is frequented by Hollywood insiders like Brian DePalma the director and John Travolta and other luminaries, but Bruce DePalma is very interesting in all this because he is the physicist. He has a high ideal. He is looking and working on a free energy machine called the [N-Machine] and he has a whole interesting set of things to say about Sunburst and what took place there that lead me to believe that that Melchizedek device found its resting place in that ranch directly next door to Reagan. The question is, is there anything in that mix that suggests that somehow the Sunburst people turned that over to Reagan and that that is where aspects of the kind of supercharged version of SDI come from. [2:00:03] I will tell you where I can substantiate some of that as we get into the next segment. 


Questions from Chat: How can a device pull a UFO down? Do we have any idea how this thing works or do we only know its description? 

Response: Lot of the early anti-gravity experiments involved electrostatics which could be disrupted by microwaves. 

The death ray, this is an EMP ray, not an EMP wave. 

Yes, the same device described in the Vedas which Krishna used, a type of handheld scalar tech. 

Plasma moves through dimensions, neutralizing portals and real UFOs by short-circuiting them.


Interesting. What you want to do is look at the Roswell case. The question often gets asked how could something come here from another galaxy and crash. And yet there is the law of accident and I am not surprised when they come into this environment that they enter into the law of accident as Gurdjieff discussed. It is strange that these very advanced craft would crash in Roswell. But, if we had been working on a device like that and when you take some of the descriptions of all that debris spreading over miles of that ranch and the people who held that ranch were approached by the government to buy it after this massive cleanup operation. They said no way, it has been in our family for hundreds of years.The government offered a very generous settlement and they said NO. The second generous settlement was 5 million dollars back then, and again they said no. The government then offered them a 10 million dollar settlement plus a gold mine. They were like, “Plus a gold mine? Okay.” This story is not on the record, but if you dig deep enough you are going to find that is exactly what took place. That whole foundation and group that owned this turned it over and started a series of nursing homes in the Southwest in Texas. Marian Baker, the first policeman inside of the Texas School Book Depository went into the building and comes across Oswald on the second floor within 90 seconds of the shooting which does not make any sense because Oswald would have been on the sixth floor and he would have run into all these people on the stairs to see the cop on the second floor. The family who owned the Roswell ranch and bought all these nursing homes hired Baker to be a managing supervisor. So he ends up working for the people who owned the Roswell ranch. It is all very substantiated and I can tell you that the reason they wanted the ranch is because they wanted to know what exactly had pulled this thing down. 


So to get to the bottom of a story first you have the cover narrative and then you have the next story that comes up that is not quite filled out and you can go a level deeper and then you are really on to something. So the first story in the Roswell case was it is a weather balloon, which is absurd because we know it is the most ridiculous thing in the world that Marcel wouldn’t know a weather balloon, so we know he was under a cover story and that he found a number of unusual things with strange properties. You could not set them on fire. They had hieroglyphs on them, a number of very unusual factors around it. So the traditional story doesn’t hold any water. The secondary story that breaks in 1979 is something totally different and it is Marcel’s retelling of the whole thing and the various people and Don Schmitt and others who go so deep into that that they find out there is actually a secondary landing site. There is a crash here and there is a crash there. [2:05:40] And if you really study all the literature of that incredible scene you discover that at one point there is a water commissioner driving along with an incredibly solid reputation. There is an archaeological group with 16 members and they are doing Native American type studies. They are walking along at the same time and the army is heading in to clean up that crash. All three of those things come together. The first person that is there is the water commissioner and he sees the crashed half saucer and he sees the beings outside of it. The archaeological group sees the whole scene from above coming in and then they come down. They see the same things that the water commissioner sees. The army comes in and puts them all down and says you cannot say anything. But the people who knew the water commissioner, that whole thing about the story. Part of the problem when you get around some of these stories is the willingness to try to debunk them after the realization comes in that the official story is bunk. So you get the official story is bunk. Then the breakthrough story comes in giving you aspects of the truth and then people try to hammer away at the aspects of the truth. Somewhere in the Roswell story is a very very compelling story of a government coverup of advanced technology. I think the odds are on that this is a craft from somewhere else, no question about it. I do think there is a possibility that because of the background of Roswell, for example Goddard launching rockets, which was going on in the 1930s and you had people like Lindberg around. So Roswell is already attracting unusual attention. Then it becomes a center for the 509th which is the only group that can drop atomic bombs. So there is something major in the swirl there of these forces. Either you are looking at an off world situation that is coming in to check out what is going on or you are looking at some other group that is coming in and seeing what is happening. But I don’t think you can deny the reports of the appearance of the aliens. So there is a group there, these Greys, that survives and one of the persons who gave the story to his daughter, Frankie Rowe, was a fireman. He was the fire chief in the area. So there is too much human linkage in the story to blow it off as experimental tech or weather balloon. 


Frankie Rowe’s story was compelling because she was 12. So she, like Jesse Marcel looking at the wreckage, Marcel Jr., who became a doctor in Iraq. He is looking at it as a kid and he remembers long purple I-beams and they have hieroglyphs in the middle of them. The hieroglyph thing comes up over and over again.   


Question from Chat: Forgive me if you have covered this Daniel. Any opinion on the silver orb that was captured recently and has been x-rayed?


Yes those stories about the orbs are interesting but I want to tell you that that whole thing seems concocted. So I don’t put a lot into it. However there are genuine orb stories, including orbs that go all the way back to Costa Rica that are antediluvian. They have one of them over here at the Harvard Museum and there is something very strange about perfectly rounded orbs just sitting there, stone orbs in this case. [2:10:21] There is no question that orbs show up in relation to the UFO file. We have orbs as energy and near-death experiences. There are all kinds of energetic parallels, dimensional parallels, whatever it would happen to be. So yes I highly believe in the whole function of orbs as part of this phenomena. There was something kind of prepackaged about the story that came out of South America but I’ll keep an open mind about it.


Question from Chat: According to some very good sources Tesla’s system was able to take out anything magnetic within 200 miles of his device. 


That’s it…well John Trump said at a great distance. So what is a great distance? 200 miles is pretty good. I am in Boston so 200 miles would be like Connecticut. I would think it would be even better. The idea is if you have a problem with something invading your airspace, you are yourself developing all these abilities and jets and rockets are your future. Then it becomes almost incumbent upon you in terms of solving this issue that you are going to need something along this line. If they have been diving into Tesla’s work and that this is the thing that they wanted the most, then you have to wonder isn’t that interesting that this is what they were after. They sent John Trump in there not to find the death ray; they sent him in to find the Melchizedek device, and they are still looking for it when you get to Adamski, and I have told the story about 1973 and an out-of-work retired former joint chief of staff Curtis LaMay going to the physicist and saying I want you to go through all of the information of Wilhelm Reich and all of his UFO cloudbuster stuff and i want you to make me one that can pull down a UFO, and the guy spends three months at LaMay’s New Mexico ranch and they worked on it. So it is 1973 and they still don’t have the Melchizedek device. So we know the trail at least there. You know what happened. 


Since we are talking about Hollywood people like the Reagan’s, Kilgallen, and Marilyn Monroe, here is a kind of Hollywood research story. Somehow through that switch up of Yogananda and Norman Paulsen taking on the name Melchizedek Brother Sunburst and then being basically a spiritual seeker beach bum guy, marries Van Tassel’s daughter; he is around Adamski. Adamski witnesses this thing and he is under heavy duty siege. Somehow that device becomes a very hot property and they need to hide it and that becomes the job of Sunburst. And that is where Sunburst suddenly shows up with all this money and he gets into all these problems suddenly with the DEA and the IRS, and he has a tremendous drug problem and then he becomes a different person. The impact of holding that kind of advanced technology, hiding it or being rewarded for it could dement you in a number of ways. 


I am going to see if I can bring this around by bringing Bruce DePalma in and we will do just a small segue here with our friend Brother Sunburst. You have to understand how important Sunburst’s story is. I have listened to his story about aliens bringing him up in their ship and showing him about Atlantis. You don’t have to take any of that seriously, but there is no question this guy who became, it was Wild Oats that bought all his organic grocery stores. [2:15:16] He was such an innovator from nothing. The fact that he is around this whole thing and the Melchizedek tie-in of the title of Melchizedek with the device and then his nickname essentially being Melchizedek I think is powerful, but let’s see if this really sizes it up, and again Hollywood. Bruce DePalma is the brother of Brian DePalma. This is DePalma talking, his own recollections of his struggles getting his N-Machine, this free energy device out to the public. And he was threatened by the CIA with his own assassination if he continued. DePalma is not a teller of tall tales. He is a physicist. Here’s what he has to say about Brother Sunburst. Norm Paulsen was the one who brought…oh this is a setup for his quote. Norm Paulsen was the one who brought Bruce DePalma to Santa Barbara in 1978 and sponsored the first quantitative tests of DePalma’s N-Machine over unity homopolar generator. According to Paulsen’s autobiography, during one of his numbers encounters with advanced non-human intelligence or superior technological capabilities, he was taken aboard a spacecraft on a round trip to Jupiter, during which time he communicated telepathically and the piloting beings who communicated to him told him how the power plant on their ship worked. From his description of this information he sponsored DePalma because he recognized in the N-Machine that it correlated with this. This person who wrote this essay on DePalma was a friend of his for 13 years. If one believes DePalma was either incompetent or dishonest in his work it is very easy to dismiss the enormous implications in these experiments. But having known him fairly well for 13 years in Santa Barbara and being acquainted with several of his research colleagues with whom I am still in contact, I’m convinced that he was both capable and honest in all of his scientific research. So I’d like to offer the following summary for consideration. He talks here with what takes place with Paulsen. 


Here’s what Bruce DePalma himself had to say. Yes, I have been threatened for my life. The first threat came from Edgar Mitchell, the astronaut who told me the government had said there never would be any doubt that the N-Machine was a free energy machine they were looking for. If I tried anything on my own in California I would have my head blown off. The CIA warned me via Mitchell that I should not leave the country because I would be kidnapped. This was back in 1980 when these efforts frightened me out of going to Hanover, Germany for  Dr. Neiper’s first Gravity Field Energy Conference. 


I want to point this out that there is a guy named Bart Sibrel who has occasion to cozy up to astronauts to try to get them to swear on the Bible that they have been to the moon. He has become a nuisance but his quest was simple enough. He undercover-style befriended Edgar Mitchell and his son and then they invited him to their house and he had a secret camera running. In the middle of all this he’s says how about swearing on the Bible you went to the moon? Edgar Mitchell throws him out of the house and threaten to call the CIA on him. Bart was recently on one of these Pop Click podcasts telling this story and I mentioned this story a couple of months ago. I want to tell him. It’s pretty epic what you did. The threat from Mitchell again about the CIA lends weight to what our friend DePalma is saying here. [2:20:18]  So why is this astronaut so heavily accompanied by the CIA that if he has a problem he just says to the CIA hey go after this guy or he is spreading messages back to DePalma saying you are going to get assassinated. Edgar Mitchell is a spirituality guy. He is a Noetic Science guy. He’s the astronaut who is meditative. Where is this stuff coming from? There is a big inconsistency there on our side that we need to figure out what kind of a hold the CIA had on him. Why this close association?


In later years I have had my inventions confiscated by various groups, the first being the Sunburst community, which helped me build the N-Machine you wrote about in your last issue. When their leader got dollar signs in his eyes and decided to see what he could do without DePalma. Later on other groups tried to manipulate me and control me in the sense that they would get everything out of me technically without any assurances that I would be paid for anymore than one year’s work. In fact Edgar Mitchell’s contract with me was a deal that he was trying to set up where he was going to have to raise 150 to 300 million dollars, that is in the ’80s, to start a company which would be the size of General Motors in 3 to 5 years. Out of this I would get a one-year employment contract and thirty thousand dollars and possibility of maybe owning one or two percent of the operation, something I turned down because of my lawyer’s advice. Mitchell blew up. Note there that he feels ripped off by Sunburst. Here we have a free energy device and Sunburst kind of pirating DePalma’s work but he is there for 5 years working on it with Paulsen. So Paulsen is associated, Brother Sunburst is associated with alternative technology. He is a big suspect in my book for this Melchizedek device, and he owns the ranch that is right next door to President Reagan. He will own the ranch from when he is Governor Reagan to when he is President Reagan and then he will sell the ranch, but when you are next door to a man who is governor and running for president you are going to have to be check out and it doesn’t strike me that they would have Brother Sunburst next door since in all the court cases he is smuggling arms in and he is losing it. 


The crisscross I get about this story is related to Star Wars. That is the unusual thing.


Comment from Chat: Aerospace stole the death ray or Melchizedek device. What exactly happened to it?


Yes some group, some independent actor got their hands on that and it seems like the groups involved on the government side are playing a reactive game when it becomes in use. So when you look at it that way there are a few different possibilities. But this is the interesting thing about the Melchizedek device. We don’t exactly know whose hands it got into but here is one potential thread that you could follow. If Tesla had it originally and Trump came into possession of it, Trump is under the government umbrella. But it seems like in 1953 either that information has been shared or they didn’t get it in the first place because in 1953 they are beating up Adamski for it because they heard him on the phone saying that he has seen this device take down a UFO at a distance. It is the same device. Now either it has the same properties or that is what they are looking for. And then again through the development of Sunburst and the fact that when I have talked to people who are on the ranch, someone described the N-Machine [2:25:00] activity for sure, but other’s described… two people involved in the ranch described a different piece of technology that they had scientists come in and work with. Is it conclusive that he has the Melchizedek device. I’m telling you he has the UFO connection, and somehow this thing is connected to UFOs because the work that is being done there in the beginning when Vannevar Bush sends in John Trump. John Trump is privy to what Vannevar Bush has in charge of the UFO file because he is the number one man on the science side and he hooks him up with Vannevar.


So you are in territory where you have to start to wonder outside the box. There is a piece of technology that they are looking for. And so who exactly has it is a damn good question. But if Sunburst it and he was right next door to the Reagan ranch, the possibility is open that somehow Reagan comes into contact with it. Somebody is either paying Sunburst a tremendous amount of money to store this thing or there is some secret funder back there because I don’t see how this guy gets all these millions from a grocery store set up, especially after being basically a beach bum. Unless it is the greatest turnaround in all history. But with all of his strange things about these aliens are coming to me. I’m on this ship. It strikes me that he’s in deep in this milieu around the technology aspect of the Melchizedek device. What bothers me in a way about Sunburst is that he goes from Yogananda, marries Van Tassels daughter and then shows up doing all this stuff. And then he is there with a free energy machine. It strikes me that there is something we don’t know about Sunburst and the only clue we have is that his ranch is next door to Ronald Reagan.


Questions in Chat: This is starting to hurt my brain cells, also this episode is DJ’s revenge. DJ, Edward Teller said that Reagan seemed to be very smart about beam weapons while he was governing California. Also, Reagan knew all about UFO Xfile technology or a space laser/Star Wars program. He even christened the classified quote “zenith star” space laser circa 1986 at a secret company event. [2:30:02] 


There are all kinds of interesting overlays of Reagan and the UFO file. Reagan had promoted Colin Powell. Colin Powell was working with him. Reagan returned to the UFO file over and over in his speeches and Colin Powell dedicated himself to taking that part of the speech out. In his own autobiography Powell says he was horrified when Reagan repeated this story of the possibility of there being a UFO threat to Maryland high school students after his return to US from Europe where he said the same thing. This was before the UN. Powell went through Reagan’s speeches regularly deleting interplanetary references. Reagan was on a mission. He wanted to bring the UFO thing front and center. He feels like he is the one who can communicate the aspect of the UFO file to the public and that it is crucial that they know. The people around him are portraying it as a threat. I’m not sure Reagan is buying it as a threat but he is going out and talking directly to Gorbachev. That comes out in a talk Gorbachev gave in 2013 with Charlie Rose. Gorbachev said Reagan took me aside at Reykjavik and asked if UFOs attack us will you be part go our defense? No agreement was made at the Reykjavik Summit because Reagan couldn’t budge on Star Wars because he said he had promised the public he would come up with a way to get rid of nuclear weapons. Gorbachev told Reagan you can’t take that on. It is too provocative. It creates a first strike ability. I can’t negotiate with you. That was the breaking point in their relationship at Reykjavik. Also there is the problem of the State Department, the CIA, and all these other overlays trying to interfere in the two leaders because if they deal directly on the UFO file, it cuts out swarms of middlemen, including defense contractors, intel players, advanced scientists, the breakaway Xtech people, the whole shebang. If they are working directly with the UFO file as two leaders and they are sharing information forget it. Everybody hits the roof. This is what Khrushchev had with Kennedy.. This is what Reagan had with Gorbachev. This is what Trump has with Putin. So when you think of it like that you have to understand the tension there. So when we’re getting tension here around Trump and Putin and they are saying Russiagate and Putin and Trump are traitors and Trump is a traitor and throwing in with Putin, that is the whole thing the Democrats tried. [2:35:08] That is coming directly out of the intelligence agencies not wanting Trump who knows the UFO file through his uncle and started the Space Force to do what? Basically to pull all that back under under the executive umbrella. Space Force was not done by any other president. Trump and space, now the Golden Dome, Star Wars 2. So we have to get on board with who Trump really is.  And, we have to get on board with the knowledge that he had. It is wrapped up in the future of his uncle on one hand, Roy Cohn, the deep relationship he had with Nixon on the other that I have exposed here on this program long before it was official. Trump has that background and that is why he can bring this on, and I think there are a lot of people trying to pirate that effort too. I think that Mellon and Elizondo who were openly critical of Trump and trying to make sure he didn’t get into office and as soon as he got in office try to position themselves as the UFO Czar by having Elizondo meet with Donald Trump Jr. I can’t think of anything more foul than the idea of a UFO Czar who is a counter intelligence CIA creep like Elizondo. So that is where we have to incorporate this information into what we are seeing on the surface. When you get around the Golden Dome you are looking at what Reagan is taking Gorbachev aside and saying. This is a problem. If there is a UFO attack are you going to help us? So when he talks about a shield, it is a shield against nuclear weapons, but it’s got a different purpose. There are people who were on the inside like Corse who said no, Star Wars was not about nuclear missiles. It was about showing ET we were up to par with them. I am not saying that there are extraterrestrials necessarily, or an off-world civilization that we are trying to demonstrate to, but they are experiencing on the national security side the whole other piece, and they are also quite capable of manufacturing that to look like a threat, which is what one strong group inside there, probably the dominant group, the Xprotect group is trying to elicit that power from. And so the same people keep coming into that power system. Why are we looking at the Luna Committee and seeing all the same people who have been lying for the past seven years since the New York Times story? Because they have the money through billionaire DOD official Chris Mellon. They have the Grusch whistleblower networks that are under the control of Chris Mellon, and they have Elizondo, their inside man through James Clapper. So that is what you are talking about in the UFO field. That is why it represents a dangerous situation as far as the implication of the sky event, the onslaught of emergency powers, and then you have the whole continuity of government thing. So it is a dangerous thing even to let them develop a UFO Defense Office and detach it to the National Defense Authorization Act. This is where the danger is.


Comment from Chat: Was Reagan a mystery school initiate?


There are a couple of interesting things but by the way before we get to that question here is a photo of Elizondo and Clapper together. Elizondo has stated himself that he worked for Clapper. He was Clapper’s counter intelligence man.


Now about Reagan… he was fascinated by this intriguing story which I used to read on the July 4th shows and it is the Manly P Hall story about this unusual initiate who came into the Philadelphia Hall when they were signing the Constitution and when they were starting to worry is this going to basically be the end if we do this, and he gave them the courage to make it happen and he became a follower of Manly P. Hall for a time, but what I found interesting is you will find this unusual book which comes directly to us as a story but it is definitely a mystery school manual and it is the book “That Printer of Udell’s” by Harold Bell Wright. This is a book from maybe 1910 or before, and this book inspired Reagan, but it has that esoteric backbone to it. [2:40:52] It is an extraordinary and unusual book but the fact that it was one of Reagan’s favorite books, tells me he had that mystery school tie-in. And I think that not only with his wife’s interest, deep interest in astrology and how they did everything according to astrology and consulted psychics and Lucille Ball talked a lot about the Reagans and she said they were into astrology and psychics and Reagan was particularly interested in UFOs. When he was governor he saw one in his plane and he had the plane chase it and he came to one of her parties after they had seen a UFO. So there is a lot of unusual UFO activity around the Reagans. But in terms of which school all I can say is that Reagan is coming out of that…


Comment from Chat: You feel a Masonic thing there don’t you?


He was not a Mason and yet you are right. There is a strange American mystery school vision of America and I attribute that to the  Rosicrucians. That would be my guess on that. 


Comment from Chat: Do you think it was the mystery schools who engineered the hidden technology story all along? Is the Tuaoi Stone on the same caliber as the Melchizedek object within this umbrella of technology with the quote players? 


The Tuaoi Stone was the thing that ran the Atlantean culture, but that is over 10,000 years ago. What fueled that original burst of technology in our background was the spiritual connection to the technology. What came out of it was it got turned by the Belial group into a weapon and a domineering weapon. So the Tuaoi stone had kind of a dual nature to it. Eventually it was remembered just as the terrible crystal. Remember the terrible things that took place. It sank islands. It set off volcanoes. It changed the world. It devastated the world. So it started off as this incredible thing and then the wrong groups got their hands on it. And there is a deep deep story about the Tuaoi Stone in the Cayce readings and his whole thing about the Hall of Records and Pyramid X. So when you think about the modern version of things and you think about the Melchizedek device, it’s when we are tapping in to this higher level of technology, watch out because humanity has this memory. One of the wonderful things Steiner points out to us is that we aren’t discovering things so much now as we are rediscovering them. And he was looking ahead in the future and he said, “You know what’s going on actually is they are going to be getting these people who have subconscious memories of this technology and they are going to be mining their subconscious for these memories.” And I think we are at a stage now where this is exactly what is taking place, which is why I think reincarnation is so important to understand with all of this. But if you don’t believe in reincarnation I think you will do just fine anyway but I think there is a reason why reincarnation is woven into the mystery school information. [2:45:06] And certainly in the case of Edgar Cayce he is drawing on the past lives of the people who come to him and they have been in Atlantis. They have experienced the Tuaoi Stone. Some of them experienced the devastation, the inundations and the kind of conflagrations that the Tuaoi Stone caused so that is where they are getting their information. 


Comment from Chat: Is this the Chicago connection?


No but it does start to open that up, but it is the Kilgallen–Monroe piece. Carolyn Kupcinet is the Chicago piece that Olivia is referencing. She is that actress who in the middle of the lead up to the Kennedy assassination called the operator and says that President Kennedy is going to be assassinated. We have to stop it. Kupcinet who is the 22-year-old daughter of a famous columnist in Chicago who is a big wig connected with all of Hollywood. There is Hollywood again who has Joan Crawford living with them and Burt Lancaster is a regular at Kupcinet’s house and Irv Kupcinet has an interesting distinction in that he is good friends with Jack Ruby. So Kupcinet makes the call again before the Kennedy assassination and this time just a few hours before the assassination, and they are starting to take note so they tip off the FBI and authorities that this girl is saying this so there is an official record of her making these calls. She is found dead on November 30th and she was distraught before they found her. So Kupcinet’s background in Hollywood and the fact that she knew the same group that Judith Exner knew, including Dean Martin and Sinatra and people like that. That is very interesting and could be the reason she had that information before anyone else, but it seems to me the real key is that her dad, Irv, was close to Jack Ruby and that Ruby had foreknowledge of the assassination and that is why she did, and so she breaks down as a 22-year-old actress and decides I don’t care who is involved in this. I am not going to let it happen, and so she freaks out and calls the operator.


Comment from Chat: And then gets punished for it.


Yes, well her death is unusual and she basically is taken out in a very short period after the assassination just a few days later.


That close relationship between Kilgallen and Marilyn is one of the reasons Kilgallen didn’t buy the story about Marilyn’s death. She had a lot of the inside knowledge and had placed things in her column connecting Marilyn with JFK. There is an interesting overlay to the background there. I’m going to read a little bit of the CIA document. That is the document that got released in the ’90s. This comes through a person named Milo Speriglio and like I said the things that are in the document are hinted at in FBI documents previous to this one which supports the authenticity of this document.  An interesting side note here from Steven Greer, the big UFO guy came out on top of this story and said he got that information a year earlier, but I got it from an NSA guy and I didn’t make it public. Greer also says he got a secret document from a NSA guy that Robert Kennedy had written about UFOs. 


I want to show you something because if you do any deep research you will find Paris Flammonde’s work. This is his book on “The Age of Flying Saucers,” and there is the letter of Robert Kennedy. It is not a secret NSA guy. It is “The Age of Flying Saucers,” by Paris Flammonde. So some of the Greer stuff is weird; instead of saying it is in Paris Flammonde’s book which is a unique document and I think it is one of the letters that Gray Barker had from Robert Kennedy about UFOs saying I follow the subject. [2:51:08] It is a fascinating subject that has initiated scientific fiction, fantasies, and serious scientific research. It is a very important letter and I am glad he put attention on it. But it is not a secret NSA guy who gave it to him. It is Paris Flammonde. So let’s get real on that.


I will read the letter because it is an important letter. It is to Gray Barker. As you may know I am a card carrying member of the Amalgamated Flying Saucer Association. Therefore like many other people in our country I am interested in the phenomena of flying saucers. It is a fascinating subject that has initiated both scientific fiction fantasies and serious scientific research. I watch with great interest all reports of unidentified flying objects and I hope someday that we will know more about this intriguing subject. Dr. Harlow Shapley the prominent astronomer has stated that there is the probability that there is other life in the universe. I favor more research regarding this matter and I hope for once and for all we can determine the true facts about flying saucers. Your magazine can stimulate such through the publication of news and discussion material. This can be of great help in paving the way to the knowledge of one of the most fascinating subjects of our entire contemporary world. Sincerely yours, Robert F. Kennedy.


And it’s dated May 9, 1968. He is dead less than a month later. It is an extraordinary letter and it is completely authenticated because it is in Gray Barker’s archive and there is nothing sensational about it and when they compared it with Robert Kennedy’s letters it was spot-on and that is his signature. So I will say this about Colonel Corso who came out with a real set of interesting stories there at the end of his life. One of the things he put on the record and of course he had a very trackable background in the military, the foreign intelligence office, World War II, everything. He said that he briefed the Kennedys monthly on the UFO subject, and one of the things that the X-15 had been developed for, as I mentioned, was chasing and analyzing UFOs. He said that we would basically do a regular briefing for Robert Kennedy and Robert Kennedy would then bring him in to John Kennedy to give him the big update. So Kennedy is getting updated regularly on the UFO file and the person I mentioned who passed away in February who was the National Security Staffer who was publishing these things before he died, Mr. Malmgren said that Richard Bissell was doing these otherworldly technology briefings for him even though he wasn’t working on the UFO file. So the Kennedy thing, like Eisenhower and that whole era, they just covered up UFOs but they were definitely briefed and knew what was going on. They had a whole program attached to UFOs. So we are just catching up and recapturing that history when we are doing all of this. That is why it is so important I would say to get it right and take it out of the hands of that sensationalizing podcasting thing we started the show with.  


Comments from Chat: There is a massive budget for new mRNA development. Skynet/Golden Dome and other tech work with mRNA to form and orchestrate the Internet of Bodies. Along those lines I wanted to ask you where Elana Freeland’s work ties in with all of this. 


Well Elana Freeland was very far ahead of anyone [2:55:11] with her full spectrum dominance book. we have done probably half-dozen interviews with her and sure we will again. She took the HAARP stuff and took it up a level and took it up a level. Her stuff is extraordinary. In terms of the Internet of Bodies, that is the vision of one strong powerful group in the middle of all this and that is exactly where they are heading with this as well. So, I think the Golden Dome activity is twofold. You see the infrastructure just like the infrastructure for the Secret Space Program was developed after the moon missions ended. When Star Wars was in full swing in the late ’80s and then they said the Soviet Union fell; we don’t need it anymore. It just became, if you track it, you will see that technology move. And there are different names for it and different groups that work with it. I pointed out one of the scientists whose life got destroyed for calling it out, Aldric Saucier, so I think now the SDI thing which was developed as a UFO defense grid is at such a point that they really can deploy it. And I think that is why Trump is saying just like with the Space Force, I can do it and I think it gives him back the role… think about Trump and how he operates. He wants control over that UFO file. It is not under executive control. This is part of the problem. And his getting back, and pulling back is the very same thing that Eisenhower advised JFK to do when he was leaving office. He was saying I am not getting briefed properly on this. You need to get this back. JFK was working trying to figure out how he could pull this secret technology back under the executive wing and not only that but take back control over the country and the world that these intelligence agencies have taken on and taken over. 


Trump announces four new executive orders including to build the Iron Dome. So it has been announced and it went from a figure of 21 billion to just under 200. I don’t know what is going on there but I have heard that Palmer Luckey’s Anduril is involved and that needs to be looked at deeply because I think he was behind part of the drone. I think his company was behind part of the drone scare. He has been seen recently doing these events with Zuckerberg. The whole killer drone thing… there needs to be an ethical guideline for all of these technologies.


Comment from Chat: Is it possible there is an extraterrestrial threat or even a time threat that the Golden Dome is designed to guard against? Would a golden dome potentially protect the US from solar CMEs and plasma storms?


Okay we have to remember that I take it from the level that they are exploiting the idea of a UFO threat. Think of it this way. Let’s suppose there was an off-world civilization and our government had figured out they are here on some kind of scientific mission looking things over. Maybe this is one scenario but they said you know there is a whole thing in the public here about a threat and we can use that and we can garner that over time and we are actually developing their technology. We could actually reproduce this thing and say these aliens are after us and really consolidate. That would really centralize control. As simplifying as the formula is you see aspects of this all the time, including the fact that if you get through any speech by somebody like Mellon or Elizondo, the fundamental thrust is you need us because there is a UFO threat. [3:00:01] You need to give us money because there is a UFO threat. Chris Mellon has what? UAPDF (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Disclosure Fund) Let’s go through a few acronyms here at the end. What is UAPDF? It is the UAP Disclosure Fund. That means anyone… they can move money in there, government contracts, all kinds of stuff directly into that fund for research. Billionaire Mellon Research. Okay, NRO (National Reconnaissance Office). Here is a very important lesson in history. And I have something on the NRO. The NRO was created in 1961 just previous to Kennedy and then he ratified it and he got it out there quickly. It was a secret satellite program for observation on the ground and observation in space, but it was not acknowledged. It was hinted at during the Watergate period. It was like hey, there are secret offices. We don’t know what they do. Was not admitted to until 1992, 30 years later by the government. Question: What offices and facilities are in use now that are not acknowledged by the government that we will find out 30 years from now were operational relating to the UFO file? That’s crucial because we can’t wait 30 years with the nature of the leadership, nature of the problem that we see in the leadership. You can’t wait 30 years to see what they do with it especially with the types that are around it. All those people who I have mentioned tonight like Mellon and Elizondo, they are working. They are doing a job and if they did not have Elizondo to do it they would have someone else to do it. So it is just part of the job that they are doing, but it is a counter intelligence job and they are going right into the heart of Congress and they are using the UFO file trying to drum up billions for UFO UAP Defense Office. It has to be brought out. If you have a task force that is doing declassification of things and they are trying to pirate that you need to turn that mirror around on those people who are helping you do it, who are like hey we are going to get you disclosure. Unfortunately those are the guys who need to be investigated. They should be under hostile questioning in those Congressional Committees, not setting them up and parading their phony whistleblowers. And by the way, they have that age of disclosure movie out there and the director is Luis Elizondo, booking manager. He does his book deals and now that guy is going to represent Grusch. So this guy, they are going to have other whistleblowers and he has got to, you know, Mellon is going to fund the movies. They are going to make movies, books, and it is all this false threat UFO piece. We have to grab that snapshot and analyze it and do real investigations and expose it. That is how investigative journalism works. William Broad says in an article the quest for ways to shoot down enemy missiles, the goal of President Reagan’s Star Wars plan, is more than a quarter of a century old. A review of recently declassified materials show that President Eisenhower began it all in the 1950s when he embarked on a crash program of research that cost billions of dollars and involved thousands of the nation’s best scientists. 1972 when the anti-ballistic missile treaty sharply limited all such work, the Quest had produced advances not only in conventional interceptors, but in exotic devices such as particle beams and laser weapons. Interesting we stopped going to the moon right there. 


I just want to give the Marilyn thing. Judith Exner acted as a human intelligence courier for President Kennedy and she had a relationship with him that went deep, [3:05:43] and visited the White House, and she was a foothold by Frank Sinatra into that whole White House world. Here is what she had to say about what she was transporting for JFK. She never looked at the envelopes she was handing back and forth to underworld figures. She gets an envelope from the Giancana Group and defense contractors to Kennedy. She recalled inside there were three contract proposals and she took it into the White House. Quote, “One envelope was for an unmanned vehicle on land.” Exner said it was one of the first of its kind, unmanned robotics. She said the whole vehicle was massive, the size of a tank. The second project involved a new procedure for desalinization. The final contract proposal dealt with avionics for a new type of fighter plane.  So instead of finding all this money in the payoff envelopes, she is finding blueprints. That is a great opening for us because here’s the deal. What it means is that Kennedy was going around his own central intelligence agency, and part of that getting to defense contractors and the Mafia thing was to get what exactly was being built in that Secret Space Program, the Blue Enigma, that the aerospace and the intelligence group has done. So it is important when you think about that in connecting up with the CIA document I showed you on Marilyn. This was based on wiretap conversations between reporter Dorothy Kilgallen and her close friend Howard Rothberg. From a wiretap of a conversation of Marilyn Monroe and Attorney General Robert Kennedy, Rothberg discussed the apparent comeback of the subject with Kilgallen in the breakup with the Kennedys. Rothberg told Kilgallen that she was attending Hollywood parties hosted by the inner circle among the Hollywood’s elite and was becoming the talk of the town again. Rothberg indicated in so many words that she had secrets to tell no doubt arising from her trysts with the president. One such secret mentions the visit by the president at a secret air base for the purpose of inspecting things from outer space. Kilgallen replied that she knew what might be the source of the visit. In the mid-50s Kilgallen learned of a secret effort by US and UK governments to identify the origins of a crashed spacecraft and dead bodies. Kilgallen believed the story may have come from the New Mexico story in the late ’40s. That is Roswell. So it’s all there in that document and when they were doing the wiretaps Marilyn had spilled her guts about this and with Kilgallen, she actually knew some things about the UFO file, including the deep deep cover secret of the Roswell story in that period. Again Roswell did not come out until 1979. So there is a complete circle there of Hollywood, exotic technology, and the deep deep political structure. 


Comment from Chat: The big big takeaway for me tonight was the amount of Space Pearl Harbor rhetoric internally from the government that shows preparedness to initiate a space-based false flag or allow one. Also, SDI studies from the ’90s reported that the technology would not be ready for deployment until 2025. [3:10:05] 


That is an excellent point that there is a developmental curve, and the question is what could the first version do, because it was very impressive according to Corso that it was actually a rival for and worked to deflect this whole UFO interaction. But what can it do 40 years later? There is an amazing arc there and so if you are going to deploy it and deploy it publicly and the Golden Dome is kind of the way you would do it. Trump has been in on that conversation according to that article since 1985. So he knows and he is very much a person in the know.. And that Miss Olivia you are up. [THE END OF TALK]